What’s love got to do with it? Speculations about what it means to say 我爱你 (in Shenzhen)

I am an American woman married to a Chinese man. I have lived in Shenzhen for many, many years. Consequently, I have heard many, many stories about cross-cultural romance – some successful, some not, others vaguely disturbing.

The other day, a good friend – Euro-American man because these labels mark the site of negotiation – told me that Chinese women say, “I love you,” way too soon. Creepy soon. So, I asked another good friend, Chinese woman, why it might be that my friend would go out on one or two dates with a woman and she was already willing to confess her love. My Chinese woman friend countered with her own question, “I thought that foreigners [meaning Westerners] were open about their feelings. Isn’t that true?” I then asked a Canadian born Hong Kong women what she thought it meant to say 爱 and she replied that she usually meant something leaning towards appreciation and gratitude.

Given that I like, respect, and trust these three people, I started thinking that the romantic cultural gap was even further than I had once thought (and yes, pangs of what was I actually doing when I fell in love ringing in my ears). I knew my Chinese friends often had different understandings of their place in a family because they have different understandings of what a family is. I knew that my Chinese women friends were more likely to start dating with an eye to marriage than my Western women friends.

And yet. I hadn’t stopped to think about what it might mean to say, “I love you,” in Shenzhen because that feeling has been so fundamental to how I have defined myself. Nor am I alone because one of the define features of modernity in the West has been the way that individual passion for god or a person or an ideal defines a fully human life. Consequently, I have assumed that love was not only a universal feeling, but universally important without stopping to consider that (1) it may not be universal even in the West or that (2) even if it is universal, forms of expression are certainly not.

After these conversations, I began listening to the use of 爱 in conversations and media broadcasts. I now think that 爱 means something closer to “appreciate” or “enjoy” or “desire” or “am grateful for”. More interestingly, I think 爱 allows Shenzhen Mandarin speakers to establish a site of individuality or personality. Who and what they love allows them to have something that is personal. Importantly, I also think 爱 is a much less socially important emotion (possibly because of its individualizing function) than are other sentiments, such as loyalty and trust and long-term commitment.

All this to say, I think that Shenzhen Mandarin speakers say I love you in order to create an individualized self. This self is recognized as being distinct from and often in opposition to the more important social and/or collective self. Anecdotal evidence follows.

(1) Accomplished children generally thank (in order) – their parents, teachers, classmates, and audience for supporting them to succeed, after which they add the line, “I love you all.” (我想感谢爸爸妈妈,感谢我的老师,感谢我的同学,感谢观众朋友;我都爱你们!) Given that that gratitude is hierarchically ranked and explicitly differentiated while爱 is general, this use of 爱 seems to signal that all the support excites or makes the speaker happy.

(2) One of the main ice-breaker conversations that Shenzheners enjoy is about hobbies or 爱好 – literally love-like (好 is a fourth tone noun in this phrase).

(3) 爱 is used to describe foods and activities that people enjoy – he loves to eat sweets (他很爱吃甜品); she loves to play tennis (她很爱打网球). Interestingly, this use of爱 seems in contrast to fear or 怕 as in the expression – he’s afraid to eat spicy food (他很怕吃辣的); she’s afraid to get sun tanned (她很怕晒太阳). In this context, it’s easy to see that this is not fear of boogeymen fear, but rather fear as dislike or something that challenges a sense of self.

(4) Once when my husband and I were having difficulties, I complained to a friend and told her how I intended to handle the situation. My friend responded, “It’s great that you dare to love and dare to hate (你敢爱敢恨多好).” In retrospect this use of 敢 seems to indicate the personal and marginalized aspect of爱.

(5) Likewise, I have been repeatedly told that Chinese women do not “become obsessed with passion (痴情),” but are loyal (忠) and faithful (贤).

(6) Indeed, a true friend is someone who is revealed over a long time (日久见人心), the person who is still by your side when those who love to eat and carouse with you (酒肉朋友) have gone their merry way.

To return to the question of what’s love got to do with it, clearly not as much as one such as I – western, feminist, using love to establish a life – would like to think. Hence, the “creepiness” of Chinese women who declare their “love” after several dates, when in fact all they might be saying is “I like you” and “Given the fact that I’m dating, it means I’m looking for husband material and I think you’ll due.” That said, once married, “I will be faithful and due my duty to you, my parents, your parents, my friends and yours – in short, I’ll live a socially responsible, respectable, and meaningful life.”

Now it may be that part of reform and opening China will be the increasing importance of 爱 in defining, constituting, and giving meaning to individual lives. But maybe not. And I don’t think matters because there are so many, many ways to be fully human and I’m learning to love – rather than fear – the diversity.

10 thoughts on “What’s love got to do with it? Speculations about what it means to say 我爱你 (in Shenzhen)

  1. this is fascinating. But you didn’t say what the Chinese men think. Is the “objection” to the declaration of love rooted in the fact that the recipient is not Chinese and presumably unfamiliar with the spectrum of possible meaning that is possible in such a statement? Or do Chinese men also feel antsy about such expressions? If the latter, then the cultural divide is not so wide since it is a cliche of the male female dynamic that women express love sooner and men commonly feel trapped by that.

  2. I haven’t heard as much about the Chinese-Chinese declaring, but from what I understand, Chinese women aren’t as “forward” with Chinese men as they are with western. I think that’s part of what they’re playing with; Chinese women (like my friend) think that westerners are more “open” and therefore saying “I love you” early on is not only okay, but also expected. However, the fact that 爱 is also less important in Mandarin than “love” seems to be in English also fascilitates the love-talk. It may also mean that if a woman says 我爱你 to a Chinese man, she’s not saying “I’m willing to commit myself to you, forsaking all others” as the English implies.

    Does anyone else out there have experiences (or gossip and rumors) to share that might help clarify the cultural differences between 爱 and love?

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  4. Interesting post. I’ve been long distance dating a Beijing woman for a few months and I also noticed her saying both “I love you” and “我爱你” early, much sooner than I was comfortable with saying “I love you” back. BTW, I was born in Taiwan and raised in Canada/US and probably 80% fluent in Mandarin. However in reference to your comment above, I’m not sure if she sees me as a “Chinese” person or a Westerner so don’t know if the “open” stereotype applies. Personally, I don’t feel that “love” and “爱” are that different but I definitely give a “Western” definition per your Mandarin/English contrast in the original post. Instead, I would probably use “like” or “喜欢” for something less intense than “love”.

  5. hi totochi,

    Thank you for comment. Cultural emphasis always functions through individual interpretation; this is what makes the love 爱 distinction so interesting. I am one of those who tend not to use the love word until almost “compelled” by overwhelming feeling. My Chinese husband, I am told, is quite “浪漫 – romantic” and willing to fall into the sea of love (all those water radicals are suggestive!) more easily than the “average / 正常” Chinese guy and tells me he loves me frequently. About 喜欢 / like, I once used it for a male friend and was told that between men and women 喜欢 functions more as the English “want” would. Although in my case, everyone knew I didn’t want to sleep with him, wasn’t that funny. Instead, I should have used 欣赏 / appreciate. [And parenthetically, who writes the dictionaries I relied on for clearly way too long?!]

  6. Hi Maryanno,
    thank you for posting this, it’s fascinating – particularly as I’ve spent most of this year researching what ‘love’ means in business and organisational contexts and whether that word can be used in the boardroom.
    I think the nuances of ‘love’ as appreciation, gratitude,respect, loyalty can be easily misinterpreted and lost to the romantic, physical meanings that are often associated with the word in Western culture.
    I’m wondering – in your experience, do people who work together in China express ‘love and appreciation’ for each other in Mandarin, and how?

  7. Hi Christine,

    I think that in Mandarin the emphasis is on appreciation for public forms of caring rather than on personalized [read “selfish”] interest. For example, “caring” bosses tell subordinates to where sweaters and carry umbrellas when the elements turn nasty. “Selfish” bosses either don’t notice chilled workers, or even worse buy presents for one subordinate – indeed, private present buying is in the fuzzy edge of corruption and if from a male superior to a young woman expresses sexual intention. “Caring” colleagues help each other out on the job; “selfish” colleagues expect this help to spill into family time. Thus, there are areas of overlap with English, but the emphasis is on public caring for the good of the group, rather than on privatized caring for the good of a couple, a relationship which is as suspect in Mandarin as in English, and is more often than not described as “special” as in “Shenzhen Special Economic Zone” — hee!

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